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Posted 28 July 2010 - 01:07 AM

Discuss strategies/builds for lo here, if you wish to create a guide for it, go to the Hero Guides forum to create one.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 01:38 AM

Incredibly easy to kill early on, with terrible armor and low hp, this is a must dual-laner, and would be epic in tri lanes.

Tether grants super movespeed to chase/escape, and can be used as an escape skill if there's a nearby ally to hook too.

Spirits are a good ganking/counter gank skill, with a movable distance from Wisp this can be used really interesting by skilled hands. Only problem is spamming Out/In causes Wisp to move jerky- as he needs to pause momentarily to cast.

Overcharge does little for Wisp, since his stats suck too much to carry- but by tethering to a dps hero, grants them super movespeed + 120 IAS at lvl4?! AWESOME!

Ultimate is incredibly unique, can be used for a global get-in-get-out gank spell, and can be used as a save in multiple ways as well. 1: You and ally are being chased down- chance of survival by running: 0%. Tether ally, port into base with ultimate, then break tether. You'll tp back and die, but ally is saved. 2: Ally is being ganked/chased, you tp in to him from base/safe place, Tether, and keep juking until timer goes up, then you're in safety.

I see LOTS of potential in a good supporters hands.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 01:59 AM

With his skills focusing more on allies and less on himself, Io is a supporter's dream.

I was surprised that this Hero is a ranged STR-type hero.

Since we don't have database for Io yet, I have posted his details here for convenience.

Hero Class: Guardian Wisp
Hero Name: Io


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Posted 28 July 2010 - 02:21 AM

Too good for a ward bitch imo

Io's team will be soooo hard to kill.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 11:07 AM

Yea why is it a strength hero again?

I think gyrocopter or thrall would have been better choices for the ranged str hero concept.

Being a str support hero, I guess it benefits from cheap items that supports usually buy, like bracers, urn, etc. But still...
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 11:37 AM

Being a support player myself, I would say that this hero, is a GODSEND. I can support them from whenever I am, I can get heroes in and out of jukes in 12 seconds, and I must say his INT stat growth ain't bad, fit for a quick Meka heal.

And that last skill where you save your ally and you die? Never. As long as you have a Dagger or Lothar's you're good to go.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 11:49 AM

View PostShuu-nii, on 28 July 2010 - 12:37 PM, said:

Being a support player myself, I would say that this hero, is a GODSEND. I can support them from whenever I am, I can get heroes in and out of jukes in 12 seconds, and I must say his INT stat growth ain't bad, fit for a quick Meka heal.

And that last skill where you save your ally and you die? Never. As long as you have a Dagger or Lothar's you're good to go.


He doesn't exactly seem like a particularly good farmer though, so to be able to get Mek and Dagger/Lothar's might be a bit of a stretch.

Also balanced by the fact that on his own, he can't do much at all. I'd go so far as to call him the first pure support hero. Even Warlock and Dazzle can gank or control a lane on their own. But this guy lives and dies by his allies; being able to Teleport your allies around the map, speed up slow allies, or grant absurd IAS to heroes (coughTINYcough).
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 11:51 AM

with troll as an ally you'd reach maximum AS pretty easy.

Man, i wanna try this with Spirit Breaker
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 11:54 AM

View PostKiller Draco, on 29 July 2010 - 12:49 AM, said:

He doesn't exactly seem like a particularly good farmer though, so to be able to get Mek and Dagger/Lothar's might be a bit of a stretch.

Also balanced by the fact that on his own, he can't do much at all. I'd go so far as to call him the first pure support hero. Even Warlock and Dazzle can gank or control a lane on their own. But this guy lives and dies by his allies; being able to Teleport your allies around the map, speed up slow allies, or grant absurd IAS to heroes (coughTINYcough).

That's where your skill in last hitting comes in. And/or farming neuts while staying out of danger/looking out for potential ganks. I mean, I really had a hard time farming by myself in Single Player mode, since he can do absolutely NOTHING by himself.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 11:58 AM

View PostShuu-nii, on 28 July 2010 - 12:54 PM, said:

That's where your skill in last hitting comes in. And/or farming neuts while staying out of danger/looking out for potential ganks. I mean, I really had a hard time farming by myself in Single Player mode, since he can do absolutely NOTHING by himself.


Again, though, support hero. Do you really want to be last hitting? He's not laning by himself, so it wouldn't be unusual for him to be denying instead, letting more gold dependent heroes get money. In addition, why would you farm neutrals? His main source of income would be the gold from assists. His niche is being a steroid for his allies; he may not do much on his own, but if you're constantly assisting your allies, what does it matter?
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 12:02 PM

I don't think map roaming at level 1 would be very assuring now would it?

Draco, you understand. I won't farm neutrals ALL THE TIME, I won't last hit creeps ALL THE TIME ... come on. I know what he's for, heck I even praised him! So yeah, I do understand what you're saying.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 12:28 PM

Definitely support material and ward bitch. He's pretty much based on Tether. I can think of several gay combos with Tether. Bind with Ursa, then stun = free hits for Ursa. Same goes for Slark, who synergizes even better with the attack increasing skill. And lots of fun stuff I can do with his ulti.

Don't bother farming with him though. Do you farm with Dazzle?
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 12:58 PM

So, just played a game with him as an ally (I was Leshrac). A good Wisp is just... lovely. Tinker's strategy of porting back to heal mid-push, and then porting right back can now be done by the Wisp and any tethered ally. Great for high-risk ganks, as there were a number of times when he would teleport us in, we'd kill, and just as their allies show up, we'd port right back out. Truly a good hero, provided you know how to support.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 07:06 PM

Strength hero, eh? I guess from now on, icefrog is going to keep making intelligence-like heroes and then making their primary attribute strength since he's out of room in the intelligence taverns... IMO, he should have just moved Jakiro. At least he's a dragon and looks stronger.

If you're not a dps hero and don't have any particularly outstanding stat, it really doesn't matter what your primary attribute is, but it would be nice if all strength heroes looked like strength heroes.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 03:25 AM

question : since tether transfers hp/mp changes. if you arcane ring/meka next to a tethered ally he will get double effect right.
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 03:26 AM

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since tether transfers hp/mp changes.

I tried this with ring of health then tethered my ally.. he doesnt seem to be affected
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 03:49 AM

View Postforce staff, on 29 July 2010 - 04:25 PM, said:

question : since tether transfers hp/mp changes. if you arcane ring/meka next to a tethered ally he will get double effect right.


Yes. As long as the increase is not more than 50% of the max hp/mana within 0.02 sec.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 03:57 AM

changing treads from agi to str. what now?
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Posted 29 July 2010 - 05:06 AM

View Postforce staff, on 29 July 2010 - 04:57 PM, said:

changing treads from agi to str. what now?


t's just a change of 190hp, unless you have 380hp, it's not going to affect tether.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 08:13 AM

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As long as the increase is not more than 50% of the max hp/mana within 0.02 sec.

wtf then why is my ring of regen then tether not regening my ally's hp
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